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#1 User is offline   Doc Zoom 

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 04:57 PM

Check out this new tie down system.
SuperClamp tie downs
Pretty impressive way to tie down your Spyder, I know I'm getting one!
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 10:22 AM

View PostDoc Zoom, on 22 July 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Check out this new tie down system.
SuperClamp tie downs
Pretty impressive way to tie down your Spyder, I know I'm getting one!
Doc


Looks like it may work okay but no pricing yet and doesn't look to be available for awhile.
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 11:56 PM

There is already a product that do just that from a company called Blaskandgray http://www.blackandg.../wchockMain.php . I have these on my AST3 trailer with a similar straps system that goes through each front wheel and holds very well. See photos, (not my photos but same).

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 10:21 AM

Kinda the same but don't know if i would trust the way the tiedowns are mounted as well as the way they hold the tires, the eyelet the tiedown is attached too is not DOT compliant either. The Superclamp Spyder system is a little different concept of where the tiestraps go, but way more sucure as well as the Superchock have the skid steer, tire bar as well as quick release. They will be released at the beginning of Aug.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 12:27 PM

This was the trailer I customized for my 2008 GS Spyder, the pics above were not of the completed
tie down system. Below are the pictures of the completed tie down system, I also relocated the cable
straps from the original positioning.

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If one reads the BRP owners manual in regards to the transporting of a Spyder, BRP recommends securing of a Spyder by way of the rims, not the
drivers foot pegs. I see no issue using the foot peg securing system, but don't see where it would be any improvement over using the tire/rim
tie downs. ;-)
I used this system on the trailer for several thousand of miles before selling it, never had any issues with this design.
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 04:30 PM

A few years ago I trailered my 2 spyders down to Sturgus, and the way BRP's manual recommented and the tiedowns moved somtime in transport and rubbed the powdercoating off in 2 spots, this will not happen when using the Superclamp system as well as it is so quick and easy and not having to deal with a couple extra tiedowns and very few places to tie too. The system you are showing is way better then what BRP recommends.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 03:39 PM

Here's some pics!

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 03:40 PM

Here's some pics!
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 07:46 AM

This looks to be a very nice system but at $400 it's out of my price range. :o
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 04:41 PM

I don't see what's so great about these, one thing for sure I don't like how high it lifts the front of the spyder up especially if you have an open trailer like I do in my case it will put the top of the spyder up even higher and that can't be good. I have never had a problem using the through the rim tie down method as I do not let the tie down straps touch/rub on the rims there is soft micro rags that go in between and after over 4000 miles no problem at all and they are very secure no need to even strap the rear wheel.

PS: I am not saying these new tie down are bad and will not do the job in fact they look very sturdy and well built, this is my own observation.
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 01:03 PM

View Postburg650, on 05 August 2011 - 04:41 PM, said:

I don't see what's so great about these, one thing for sure I don't like how high it lifts the front of the spyder up especially if you have an open trailer like I do in my case it will put the top of the spyder up even higher and that can't be good. I have never had a problem using the through the rim tie down method as I do not let the tie down straps touch/rub on the rims there is soft micro rags that go in between and after over 4000 miles no problem at all and they are very secure no need to even strap the rear wheel.

PS: I am not saying these new tie down are bad and will not do the job in fact they look very sturdy and well built, this is my own observation.



I don't get it, you are saying that you dont like the fact that your Spyder would be raised 2.5" in the front with the Superchocks may be an issue and observation . Tell me what you think would be the problem? We have done thousands of miles of testing and taking on and off our Spyder and we have and no Issues what so ever, and it is 10 time faster and more secure, then the old metheod of tieing down the Spyder with tie downs and soft rags to prevent powdercoating on your rims being rubbed, you do not have to worry about that with ours. As for the price , you pay for what you get, even if you can afford it or not.
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 03:03 PM

I just called Superclamps because I like the looks of their system. Last week for our Spyders in the Adirondacks rally, we had to trailer our two spyders up to Lake Placid because we had to haul all the welcome bags, tables, chairs, banners...etc. I had our two spyders tied down with ratchet straps through the front and rear wheels with cloths protecting the wheels.

Well, an hour into the ride up I decided to check my brand new tie down straps and I found both straps on the rear wheels (the new ones) were loose. Our spyders were about to start rubbing nose to nose just when I stopped. Assuming it was operator error, I re-tightened and headed out...but the same thing happened at the next stop, and the next stop. I was lucky to make it to the rally with no damage to the spyders...I have since returned the tie downs.
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 09:35 PM

I trailer my Spyder all the time to go camping. I use one heavy duty rachet strap on each wheel. The front wheels pull forward and the rear wheel pulls straight back secured to folding D-rings in floor of my homemade camper. One d-ring per wheel and thats it. (Total cost $20.00) I drive my truck and trailer like a sports car. My Spyder never ever moves, not one inch. And the real kicker is, the Spyder sits on slippery laminate flooring I installed. I have to agree with burg on this. It looks like a nice product, but surely not needed. Pics below


http://s1188.photobu.../z418/Arntufun/

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 08:01 PM

View Postarntufun, on 08 August 2011 - 09:35 PM, said:

I trailer my Spyder all the time to go camping. I use one heavy duty rachet strap on each wheel. The front wheels pull forward and the rear wheel pulls straight back secured to folding D-rings in floor of my homemade camper. One d-ring per wheel and thats it. (Total cost $20.00) I drive my truck and trailer like a sports car. My Spyder never ever moves, not one inch. And the real kicker is, the Spyder sits on slippery laminate flooring I installed. I have to agree with burg on this. It looks like a nice product, but surely not needed. Pics below


http://s1188.photobu.../z418/Arntufun/


Everyone has been tieing down Snowmobiles , motorcycles, ATV/UTV , and now Spyders with conventional tie down strapes forever(no surprize). Superclamp is just a New alternitive. Are they for everybody, YES, but it is up to the individule to decide if he wants to tie down there toys with tiedown strapes or New alteritive. We all spend lots of money on our toys and the vehicles we drive, but some choose to be thrifty with the dollars, and some just want the best product money can buy. It is up to you to decide which one you are.
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Posted 10 August 2011 - 07:33 AM

View Postsuperclamp, on 09 August 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Everyone has been tieing down Snowmobiles , motorcycles, ATV/UTV , and now Spyders with conventional tie down strapes forever(no surprize). Superclamp is just a New alternitive. Are they for everybody, YES, but it is up to the individule to decide if he wants to tie down there toys with tiedown strapes or New alteritive. We all spend lots of money on our toys and the vehicles we drive, but some choose to be thrifty with the dollars, and some just want the best product money can buy. It is up to you to decide which one you are.




I'm not trying to say your product is not good, but how can you call it a new alternative if your still using rachet straps to hold the Spyder down to the trailer ??? Like you said, no suprize. This is not making any sense. One one hand you are saying this is the new alternative method but your still using conventional rachet straps to accomplish this. :TgC_emoticon142:

Your product design pulls down on the shocks to secure it to the trailer. If you do not compress the shocks all the way down when you hit a bump (like you did on your video) the shock compresses more (simple inertia) and your new alternative rachet straps could come unhooked and so long Spyder. This also puts more than normal stress on the shocks and reduces the shocks life. I've seen motorcycles come unhooked in the bed of pickup trucks for this very same reason because they secure it by pulling down on the front shocks via the handlebars.

I do use your product to secure my snowmobiles
(for the speed and I got it pre-loved at a deep deep discount) but I will pass on this system for my Spyder. IMO the conventional wheel strap method is obviously cheaper, much safer and just as fast to secure Spyder. If your company is going to claim "the best products money can buy" ,you will have to offer more than two rachet straps and a couple of simple wheel chokes. I really like most of your companys products but, your product devolopers have really dropped the ball on this one.

I'm just a guy with a keyboard giving an honest opinion, and by no means telling people not to purchase this product. Good luck to your company and the products you sell. :thumbs:
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Posted 10 August 2011 - 09:36 AM

thanks for your IMO, and thank you for using our snowmobile tie down. If you see how the ratchet strap (specially manufactured for us, 4000 lb rating also) self tightens around your foot peg with very little pull (and the angle it is at, and the way it is lassude around the footpeg)it will not release at all regardless if it is snug down or not., as well as the way you barely compress your suspension because of the angle and pull and will not hurt your suspension at all. When securing your Spyder with this system you are eliminating tiedowns and rag around the front tires. As for you stating tiedowns around your front tires is safer, well it is only as good as the individaul tieing it down, faster, come on, and just a couple simple wheel chocks, There is not any other wheel chocks like these one with the features that these chock provide anywhere. Maybe watch and listen to the video again. And it is another new alteritive (the new alteritive is using chocks/rachet strap combanation designed for Spyders)(you call it what you want)... Come on man, Our Company devolopers have drop the ball on this one, maybe only in your court, IMO.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 11:48 AM

View Postsuperclamp, on 10 August 2011 - 09:36 AM, said:

thanks for your IMO, and thank you for using our snowmobile tie down. If you see how the ratchet strap (specially manufactured for us, 4000 lb rating also) self tightens around your foot peg with very little pull (and the angle it is at, and the way it is lassude around the footpeg)it will not release at all regardless if it is snug down or not., as well as the way you barely compress your suspension because of the angle and pull and will not hurt your suspension at all. When securing your Spyder with this system you are eliminating tiedowns and rag around the front tires. As for you stating tiedowns around your front tires is safer, well it is only as good as the individaul tieing it down, faster, come on, and just a couple simple wheel chocks, There is not any other wheel chocks like these one with the features that these chock provide anywhere. Maybe watch and listen to the video again. And it is another new alteritive or option (you call it what you want)... Come on man, Our Company devolopers have drop the ball on this one, maybe only in your court, IMO.




What maybe you are not understanding is, the only function of your wheel chock is to keep the spyder from moving forward when you rachet strap it down. That is it's only function and thats what makes it simple. What other features does this chock provide ??? You do not have to be an engineer to figure that one out. You can accomplish that by purchasing RV wheel chocks at your local RV store for $10.00 and screwing it to the bed of your trailer.

You must not own a Spyder then because if you pull down on the Spyders footpegs, it compresses the shocks. It does not matter what angle you are pulling down. I understand about the self tighting around the foot peg (that is your best feature of this whole system), but I'm talking about the other end (the hook). Watch your video for yourself and see, as it is being ratched down the shocks are compressing. Hook a tention meter to your rachet strap. I bet any amount of money when you hit a bump hard, slack (less tention) will develop possibly causing it to come unhooked at the trailer point. Therfore not safer.

As far as speed is concerned, operation of your so called "specially designed strap" operates the same as the ones from Walmart.
So speed will not be much different. The system you have, simply moves the rachet strap from the wheel (strong point) to the footpeg (weak point) and thats it.

I would be honored to be a honest consultant (not, a yes man) to your design and development team to improve on this product with potential, so we can pick the ball back up no matter whos court it's in. (highly compensated of course) :thumbs:
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Posted 10 August 2011 - 04:44 PM

View Postarntufun, on 10 August 2011 - 11:48 AM, said:

What maybe you are not understanding is, the only function of your wheel chock is to keep the spyder from moving forward when you rachet strap it down. That is it's only function and thats what makes it simple. What other features does this chock provide ??? You do not have to be an engineer to figure that one out. You can accomplish that by purchasing RV wheel chocks at your local RV store for $10.00 and screwing it to the bed of your trailer.

You must not own a Spyder then because if you pull down on the Spyders footpegs, it compresses the shocks. It does not matter what angle you are pulling down. I understand about the self tighting around the foot peg (that is your best feature of this whole system), but I'm talking about the other end (the hook). Watch your video for yourself and see, as it is being ratched down the shocks are compressing. Hook a tention meter to your rachet strap. I bet any amount of money when you hit a bump hard, slack (less tention) will develop possibly causing it to come unhooked at the trailer point. Therfore not safer.

As far as speed is concerned, operation of your so called "specially designed strap" operates the same as the ones from Walmart.
So speed will not be much different. The system you have, simply moves the rachet strap from the wheel (strong point) to the footpeg (weak point) and thats it.

I would be honored to be a honest consultant (not, a yes man) to your design and development team to improve on this product with potential, so we can pick the ball back up no matter whos court it's in. (highly compensated of course) :thumbs:




thanks for you concern and imput. Have a great day. PS. I have 2-08 Spyders by the way.
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 09:08 PM

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You can now order you Superclamp for your Can-am Spyder at line at : www.superclamp.net
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Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:43 AM

As an owner of the SuperClamp Snowmobile tiedowns and ATV tiedowns, I was excited to see these guys develop a system for the Spyder. First of all the front chocks are engineering masterpieces. They have quick disconnects to take them off your trailer with the twist of a knob, teeth for traction that match the SuperGlide traction pieces and adjustable arms for different tire sizes as well as an inner lip to glide you straight into position. Don't even think of comparing these to some RV STOPs! They also worked with Mac's tie downs to develop a special ratchet strap just for this application. Bash all you want, this system is the only way to go in my book. Just watch the video and you be the judge! If you want to tie you Spyder down secure, simple and fast the SuuperClamp system is the ONLY choice!
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