[Mandrew]

Was just wondering if anyone has installed a juice nox and is currently running it with two brothers dual exhaust. I just installed tbr dual on mine i talked to my local delaership and they said that on there demo model with the same exhaust it ran like crap with out any thing and they installed a juice box but said it worked better but was really hard to adjust and never could get it perfect.. They said they made a custom set of baffles that they said works better and you cant really even see the baffles just wondering anyones input

[Steelcitytransplant]

Mandrew, on 03 March 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

Was just wondering if anyone has installed a juice nox and is currently running it with two brothers dual exhaust. I just installed tbr dual on mine i talked to my local delaership and they said that on there demo model with the same exhaust it ran like crap with out any thing and they installed a juice box but said it worked better but was really hard to adjust and never could get it perfect.. They said they made a custom set of baffles that they said works better and you cant really even see the baffles just wondering anyones input

The JB is worth it if you add a free flowing air filter with your exhaust such as the green filter or kewlmetal intake,etc. It will even out the performance, increase gas mileage, increase acceleration.

[asmdjackal]

Steelcitytransplant, on 08 March 2010 - 11:37 AM, said:

The JB is worth it if you add a free flowing air filter with your exhaust such as the green filter or kewlmetal intake,etc. It will even out the performance, increase gas mileage, increase acceleration.

I don't know about gas mileage... The Spyder is super lean from the factory for emissions purposes, anytime you add fuel to compensate for that muffler or air box and get the Spyder to a more safe and manageable tune.. adding fuel = less mileage. Its not like the JB is changing timing, or anything... its just a fuel controller.

The good news is that if you add fuel - your Spyder will run cooler, live longer and make more power.

The bad news is your gas mileage will suffer a little.

[Steelcitytransplant]

asmdjackal, on 09 March 2010 - 12:12 PM, said:

I don't know about gas mileage... The Spyder is super lean from the factory for emissions purposes, anytime you add fuel to compensate for that muffler or air box and get the Spyder to a more safe and manageable tune.. adding fuel = less mileage. Its not like the JB is changing timing, or anything... its just a fuel controller.

The good news is that if you add fuel - your Spyder will run cooler, live longer and make more power.

The bad news is your gas mileage will suffer a little.

Adding a free flowing exhaust and intake can make it run even leaner. Thats where the JB comes into play evening things up. Running too lean will effect gas mileage.

[Mandrew]

just spoke to a few two brother dealers and tow borthers direct they suppose to be coming out with a juice box pro which hthey say is way better and even adjustable with a laptop and will take maps from power commander if they ever release some so i guess i am going to get that have my name on a waiting list appreciate the info

[asmdjackal]

Mandrew, on 09 March 2010 - 07:17 PM, said:

just spoke to a few two brother dealers and tow borthers direct they suppose to be coming out with a juice box pro which hthey say is way better and even adjustable with a laptop and will take maps from power commander if they ever release some so i guess i am going to get that have my name on a waiting list appreciate the info

You might be waiting for a LOOOOOONG time. The JB is a Dobeck controller (http://www.dobeckperformance.com/) and they have been talking about this new controller for quite some time. Rumors of a self tuning one that ties directly into a wideband controller, etc...

What I would do is put a wideband on your spyder now, look at your AFR's and see if you even need a JB/Dobeck, etc... if your lean, if your fat (fuel fat.. not body fat) or your AFR's are all over the place.. You might want to get one now. I do know from personal experience with the Aerocommander (same as Juice Box) that when you add fuel to get the spyder running safely, engine temps drop off a bunch and your motor will live longer for sure. Everyone that is looking at fan controllers, higher speed fans, etc... you dont need to, just get some more gas in the spyder!

And I think I've said this before... Wideband = $300, JB = $350... thats $650.. its 12% of the cost of the Aerocharger turbo kit that includes both a fuel controller and a wideband..

This post has been edited by asmdjackal: 10 March 2010 - 11:22 AM

[myeager]

Mandrew, on 03 March 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

Was just wondering if anyone has installed a juice nox and is currently running it with two brothers dual exhaust. I just installed tbr dual on mine i talked to my local delaership and they said that on there demo model with the same exhaust it ran like crap with out any thing and they installed a juice box but said it worked better but was really hard to adjust and never could get it perfect.. They said they made a custom set of baffles that they said works better and you cant really even see the baffles just wondering anyones input

I have had a flat spot in the 3500 to 4500 RPM range from day one. Both re-flashes helped but still wasn't great. I have just gone through the 12,000 mile budget buster and had a JB and TBR slip-on with baffle installed. The pre-programmed JB made a big improvement but after tweaking the mid-range adjustment the Spyder screams with the surging eliminated. I found the JB to be easy to play with. I am guessing a seat of the pants gain to be in the 15 to 20% horsepower range. This has been the best investment yet. The only negative is a little drop in fuel mileage. I prefer performance to economy.

[Mandrew]

can you tell me what you have you r jb set at now possiblyt so when i get mine i can try them if stock settings arent good

[myeager]

Mandrew, on 10 March 2010 - 05:52 PM, said:

can you tell me what you have you r jb set at now possiblyt so when i get mine i can try them if stock settings arent good

I'll be happy to. The JB comes pre-programmed for the Spyder so I suggest you start with those settings. At that time, contact me and I will walk you through what I did. Good luck. Mike

[Mandrew]

thanx

[myeager]

Mandrew, on 10 March 2010 - 08:06 PM, said:

thanx

One more thing that will help. Go to the TBR website and download the installation instructions for the JB. There are 2 videos that explain the whole process.

[Steelcitytransplant]

myeager, on 10 March 2010 - 03:00 PM, said:

I have had a flat spot in the 3500 to 4500 RPM range from day one. Both re-flashes helped but still wasn't great. I have just gone through the 12,000 mile budget buster and had a JB and TBR slip-on with baffle installed. The pre-programmed JB made a big improvement but after tweaking the mid-range adjustment the Spyder screams with the surging eliminated. I found the JB to be easy to play with. I am guessing a seat of the pants gain to be in the 15 to 20% horsepower range. This has been the best investment yet. The only negative is a little drop in fuel mileage. I prefer performance to economy.

"big improvement but after tweaking the mid-range adjustment"
What mid-range adjustment are you referring to. I've been tweaking my JB but really can't distinguish some of the bands.

[myeager]

Steelcitytransplant, on 15 March 2010 - 04:52 PM, said:

"big improvement but after tweaking the mid-range adjustment"
What mid-range adjustment are you referring to. I've been tweaking my JB but really can't distinguish some of the bands.

I found the Mode 4 adjustment worked best by - to the 4 position. It flashes green/blue. I ran it up and down and that setting is the best I've found. All the other bands seem to be strictly for acceleration.

This post has been edited by myeager: 23 March 2010 - 09:29 AM

[LoneSpyderRyder]

Mandrew, on 10 March 2010 - 08:06 PM, said:

thanx

I am selling my jucie box for $200. didn't do anything for me.

[LO' CRAWLIN]

leoejr, on 16 March 2010 - 01:05 AM, said:

I am selling my jucie box for $200. didn't do anything for me.

WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OFF YOUR HANDS IF YOU STILL HAVE

[D YATES]

Mandrew, on 03 March 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

Was just wondering if anyone has installed a juice nox and is currently running it with two brothers dual exhaust. I just installed tbr dual on mine i talked to my local delaership and they said that on there demo model with the same exhaust it ran like crap with out any thing and they installed a juice box but said it worked better but was really hard to adjust and never could get it perfect.. They said they made a custom set of baffles that they said works better and you cant really even see the baffles just wondering anyones input

TB make the buffles but they are still very high is the sound, I hade the duels and the complaints I had was not good, so I bought a single tb still loud so i use the ADR plate and placed it between the pipe and the link pipe. This plate which is made of stainless and 1.2mm x about 60mm dia and it has 4 20mm holes to help make it quieter, its what came to the dealers here in Australia so they would pass the EPA test for noise but used with the std pipe where it joins at the engine pipe, it doe's work just make sure the bolt are about 5mm longer for the joiner and use some lock tight.
Regards Darren